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		<title>Political journalism&#8217;s policy ignorance</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh Korr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been meaning for a while to write a post about the pointlessness of the &#8220;Is the media finally getting tough on Barack Obama&#8221; meme. The gist would have been that the media&#8217;s &#8220;getting tough&#8221; on Obama &#8212; just like &#8230; <a href="http://korrvalues.com/2008/04/13/political-journalisms-policy-ignorance/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=korrvalues.com&amp;blog=2865832&amp;post=72&amp;subd=korrvalues&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning for a while to write a post about the pointlessness of the &#8220;Is the media finally getting tough on Barack Obama&#8221; meme. The gist would have been that the media&#8217;s &#8220;getting tough&#8221; on Obama &#8212; just like the media&#8217;s alleged &#8220;Obama bias&#8221; &#8212; had zero to do with policy and everything to do with personality, image, and media meta-narratives. Likewise the media&#8217;s alleged bias against Hillary Clinton has nothing to do with her policy proposals.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the near-total focus on these sorts of things to the exclusion of policy shows the general shallowness of newspaper political journalism, especially campaign journalism. There are many reasons for this, starting with objectivity conventions, which give reporters little reason to read white papers, policy proposals, scholarly books, etc. Whereas writers for New Republic, Atlantic, Slate et. al. are a) not bound by &#8220;objectivity&#8221; strictures and b) well-versed in policy.</p>
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<p>Sure, there are some campaign moments that do give insight into a candidate&#8217;s policy considerations or say something genuinely noteworthy about their personality. Hillary Clinton&#8217;s <a href="http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/this_is_disgusting_clintons_mc.php" target="_blank">attacks</a> on <a href="http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/03/04/the-mccain-clinton-ticket.aspx" target="_blank">Obama</a> that perfectly dovetail with Republican attacks betray her willingness to put personal ambition ahead of the party. Obama&#8217;s devotion to progressive policy goals looks suspect when he attacks Clinton&#8217;s health care proposal via <a href="http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/02/26/experts-to-obama-no-more-harry-and-louise.aspx" target="_blank">mailers</a> that follow the same script as Republican mailers that played a major role in defeating the Clintons&#8217; &#8217;90s health-care reform. John McCain&#8217;s ignorance about any <a href="http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/04/10/mccain-s-advisors-think-he-s-a-lightweight.aspx" target="_blank">any</a> <a href="http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/01/18/mccain-lies-his-head-off-new-york-times-asleep-at-swich.aspx" target="_blank">number</a> <a href="http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4a65fb2f-7752-493f-a8d3-7fa4aa5e55d0" target="_blank">of</a> <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/campaign-trail/2007/03/mccain_is_stumped_on_the_stump.html" target="_blank">issues</a> portends a certain kind of detached presidency.</p>
<p>But for the most part, the nature of political coverage in newspapers, mainstream newsmagazines, and TV news makes the whole discussion about &#8220;media bias&#8221; in the context of the Democratic race essentially meaningless.</p>
<p>Anyway, since I&#8217;ll probably never get around to writing that full post, I wanted to point out two must-read pieces that do a great job of puncturing the bubble in which this political coverage takes place.</p>
<p>First, Ezra Klein <a href="http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_archive?month=04&amp;year=2008&amp;base_name=back_to_the_campaign" target="_blank">gets at</a> the essential silliness of the &#8220;controversy&#8221; over Obama&#8217;s recent <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/11/AR2008041103965.html" target="_blank">remarks</a> on why working-class voters might not vote for him or Democrats &#8212; remarks that, while poorly phrased, were <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-flashback-al_n_96433.html" target="_blank">squarely</a> in the <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/13/193218/058/760/494529" target="_blank">mainstream</a> of<a href="http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/188673.php" target="_blank"> Democratic</a> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Whats-Matter-Kansas-Conservatives-America/dp/080507774X/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1208135614&amp;sr=1-2" target="_blank">discussion</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>But let&#8217;s be clear: It&#8217;s not damaging because we think it foretells him doing something harmful to the country. It&#8217;s not damaging because it suggests his policy agenda is poorly conceived, or his priorities are awry. If you think of policy and politics as two circles in a Venn diagram, this is damage that only exists in the politics circle, and doesn&#8217;t even come close to the area of intersection. We reporters have to cover it, of course, because it&#8217;s Really Important, and matters more than the housing plans of all the candidates put together. But it matters in a completely self-referential way, it matters only because it matters, not because it means anything about Obama, or illuminates anything about his potential presidency. It&#8217;s a hollow scandal. &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I love the Venn diagram image. It perfectly captures why these sorts of flareups are pointless. No wonder so many people tune out politics and political news.</p>
<p>The second great piece is a Slate <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2188472/" target="_blank">essay</a> by Troy Patterson about the dismal state of political satire and how it reflects the shallowness of mainstream political coverage. Patterson quotes University of Iowa professor Russell L. Peterson&#8217;s new <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Strange-Bedfellows-Late-Night-Comedy-Democracy/dp/0813542847/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1208139621&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">book</a>, Strange Bedfellows: How Late-Night Comedy Turns Democracy Into a Joke, to describe how late-night jokes</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;rarely transcend the level of pure ad hominem mockery.&#8221; They&#8217;re personality jokes and, as such, of a piece with character-based journalistic narratives that &#8220;treat newsmakers not as the subjects of newscasts but as the news&#8217; cast.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Patterson also nicely calls out Saturday Night Live on its satire-free political satire:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rumors of SNL&#8217;s rebirth have been greatly exaggerated. &#8230; SNL has twice devoted sketches to the idea that debate moderators, as members of an Obama-besotted media, have given the Illinois senator an easy go of it in his one-on-one debates with Hillary Clinton. But the only jokes were in the impersonations (Amy Poehler&#8217;s schoolmarm nodding as Hillary, Fred Armisen&#8217;s catching Obama&#8217;s professor-preacher cadence) and in the hyperbole (CNN&#8217;s Soledad O&#8217;Brien so hot and bothered that she fans herself). The joke never develops beyond its premise. We all already know that the media is in the tank for Obama because we read it in the papers. SNL might have tried to turn these sketches into jokes about why this is the case &#8212; Is it about race? Celebrity? The hunger for a new narrative? &#8212; or it could have wondered about the relationship between this adoration and Obama&#8217;s oft-reported aloofness from reporters. It did not.</p>
<p>Likewise, Tina Fey&#8217;s editorial in support of Hillary as a guest on &#8220;Weekend Update&#8221; was not a political statement. She might have cut at the press or at Obama. What she did, instead, was to identify herself and her candidates as &#8220;bitches.&#8221; I can&#8217;t dispute Fey&#8217;s point that &#8220;bitches get stuff done,&#8221; but I will argue that the entire joke falls apart without the frisson of that word &#8212; a shock tactic that Sarah Silverman must have outgrown before her first period.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is why the the stories saying &#8220;OMG SNL is totally sticking it to the media for sucking up to Obama!!!&#8221; were so annoying. Policy-ignorant, image-obsessed political reporters were praising a policy-ignorant, image-obsessed satirical show for calling them out on &#8212; what exactly? Focusing on one candidate&#8217;s image over the other&#8217;s? Not ignoring both candidates&#8217; policy positions enough? Spending too much time on one candidate&#8217;s meaningless campaign minutiae? Talk about the blind (and unfunny) leading the blind (and even less funny).</p>
<p>It all pretty much makes my brain hurt.</p>
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		<title>SNL&#8217;s &#8216;Milkshake&#8217; miss and the limits of viral video fads</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Josh Korr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saturday Night Live&#8217;s first post-strike episode was surprisingly solid, thanks to Tina Fey and her love of slightly sexist humor and poop jokes. Only one sketch bombed (a TMI drunken wedding toast) and an otherwise brilliant Rock of Love parody &#8230; <a href="http://korrvalues.com/2008/02/25/snls-milkshake-miss-and-the-limits-of-viral-video-fads/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=korrvalues.com&amp;blog=2865832&amp;post=35&amp;subd=korrvalues&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturday Night Live&#8217;s first post-strike episode was surprisingly solid, thanks to Tina Fey and her love of slightly sexist humor and poop jokes. Only one sketch bombed (a TMI drunken wedding toast) and an otherwise brilliant Rock of Love parody was ruined by Amy Poehler&#8217;s annoying one-legged farter (topic for future consideration: why SNL still bothers to come up with &#8220;characters&#8221; and why SNL characters and catch phrases were ever big deals in the first place).</p>
<p>The most interesting <a href="http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/#mea=221737" target="_blank">sketch</a> came near the end, when a scene opened on Bill Hader doing a spot-on Daniel Plainview impression inside what turned out to be an old-fashioned soda shop. Sure enough, it was an &#8220;I Drink Your Milkshake&#8221; sketch. And it got an interesting audience response &#8212; not crickets or forced laughter, but what seemed to me to be chuckles of sheer bafflement. Most of the audience simply didn&#8217;t know what was going on. (The biggest laugh line was Kenan Thompson joking that Hader would get a cold from his shake &#8212; hardly a reference to the original gag or the movie.) It was a great lesson in the limited reach of Internet fads and viral video.</p>
<p>The sketch is based on a scene from There Will Be Blood in which Daniel Day-Lewis&#8217; crazed oilman shouts &#8220;I drink your milkshake!&#8221; I haven&#8217;t seen the movie yet, but I gather it&#8217;s roughly equivalent to Borat saying &#8220;I crush her&#8221; only more violent. Various geniuses made viral videos <a href="http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/02/18/i-drink-your-milkshake-in-the-morning-only-on-ktwbb/" target="_blank">parodying</a> the line, or <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/01/milkshake_watch_i_drink_your_m.html" target="_blank">mashing it up</a> with the Kelis song &#8220;Milkshake,&#8221; or otherwise creating Internet <a href="http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/02/07/icymi-there-will-be-blog-parodies/" target="_blank">hilarity</a>. New York Magazine&#8217;s Vulture blog <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/01/milkshake_watch_i_drink_your_m.html" target="_blank">called</a> it (only semi-sarcastically, as far as I can tell) &#8220;2008&#8242;s fastest-growing catchphrase&#8221; and provided a <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/01/i_drink_your_milkshake.html" target="_blank">guide</a> to its proper usage. Various non-NYC-insidery-blog media outlets picked up on what the cool kids were blogging about, and soon you had the Associated Press noting in its Oscar <a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gmhq087mgI6xFAm02nulOrKcIbzwD8V14P280" target="_blank">roundup</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Despite the art-house nature of &#8220;There Will Be Blood,&#8221; Day-Lewis&#8217; performance has seeped its way into popular culture. A line he bellows during the film&#8217;s stunningly violent climax &#8212; &#8220;I drink your milkshake!&#8221; &#8212; has become a bit of a catch phrase.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note the hedge &#8220;a bit.&#8221; Judging by the response to SNL&#8217;s milkshake sketch, the catch phrase hasn&#8217;t seeped very far beyond the in-the-know audience from which it came. It&#8217;s saying a lot if Saturday Night Live&#8217;s audience &#8212; not a hip bunch like the Daily Show crowd, but probably a good barometer of general pop culture awareness &#8212; missed the joke.</p>
<p>The sketch is a good reminder of how even the Internet&#8217;s top pop culture blogs are still pretty self-contained and inter-referential and off the general population&#8217;s radar. The same thing happened last year when Best Week Ever <a href="http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/07/27/the-internet-keeps-right-on-rolling-with-chocolate-rain/" target="_blank">discovered</a> &#8220;Chocolate Rain.&#8221; They <a href="http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/08/03/bwe-exclusive-john-mayers-chocolate-rain-remix/" target="_blank">tried</a> to <a href="http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/08/06/bwe-exclusive-did-someone-say-more-tay-zonday/" target="_blank">turn</a> their discovery into a pop culture phenomenon; viral vid <a href="http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/08/13/icymi-chocolate-rain-will-never-go-away/" target="_blank">parodies</a> ensued; and &#8220;Chocolate Rain&#8221; singer Tay Zonday <a href="http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/08/09/icymi-tay-zonday-soaks-jimmy-kimmel-audience-in-fudgy-downpour/" target="_blank">appeared</a> on Jimmy Kimmel&#8217;s show &#8212; again, to the audience&#8217;s utter bafflement.</p>
<p>I Drink Your Milkshake and Chocolate Rain are both fascinating examples of pop culture&#8217;s real-time, Internet-era metamorphosis. Their narrow reach, and the hipster blogs&#8217; attempts to recreate old-school fads like catch phrases and characters in viral video form, show that maybe things aren&#8217;t changing as quickly as we thought.</p>
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